Episode 1483, Part 6, Who Created the Aliens? The Deepest Secret of the Universe

Introduction

The ongoing discussion surrounding the alien interview material continues to reveal increasingly profound questions about existence, creation, consciousness, and the ultimate source of reality. One of the greatest questions ever asked by sages, philosophers, mystics, seekers, and spiritual researchers throughout history is:

Who created everything?

More specifically:

Who created the aliens?

This article explores one of the deepest and most controversial answers presented in the alien interview material and compares it with spiritual knowledge, Vedantic teachings, and the teachings of Bapuji Dashrathbhai Patel.

The Most Fundamental Cosmic Question

Every civilization eventually reaches the same question:

• Who created the universe?

• Who created humanity?

• Who created the gods?

• Who created the aliens?

The Alien Interview material approaches this question from a very unusual angle.

When the alien known as Airl (Airl) was asked who created the aliens, the answer given was shocking:

"No one."

At first glance, this appears to be one of the most explosive statements in the entire book.

The alien explains that what she calls IS-BEs (Immortal Spiritual Beings) are eternal beings that have no creator.

According to the text:

Immortal Spiritual Beings (IS-BEs) are themselves the source and creators of all illusions.

The book states that every IS-BE, both individually and collectively, in its original unrestricted state of being, is:

• Eternal

• All-powerful

• All-knowing

In other words, every soul is described as an immortal spiritual entity possessing immense creative capacity.

The Meaning of the Alien's Statement

The direct implication of the alien's statement is:

• No one created the aliens.

• The aliens are beginningless.

• They have always existed.

• They have no creator.

• They have no measurable beginning.

According to Airl, every IS-BE simply exists.

However, this raises another profound question.

Can anything truly exist without a creator?

Many spiritual traditions declare that Shiva is self-existent (Swayambhu).

Yet even within higher spiritual cosmologies there are teachings of:

• Shiva

• Maha Shiva

• Param Maha Shiva

• Higher levels of creation beyond creation

From this perspective, one may argue that every level of existence ultimately has a source, whether known or unknown.

The fact that a being does not know its creator does not necessarily mean that no creator exists.

The Search for the Ultimate Source

Bapuji explains that this question remains one of the greatest mysteries being explored by advanced civilizations.

The aliens may claim:

"We are eternal."

But this does not automatically answer the question:

Who is the source of the eternal being itself?

A useful comparison can be made with humanity.

A person may say:

• My parents created me.

• My grandparents came before them.

• My great-grandparents came before them.

But eventually the chain reaches a deeper question:

Who created the soul itself?

At some point every search for origins reaches a source that must be investigated.

The alien civilizations themselves may still be searching for that ultimate source.

Similar Statements Found in Human Spiritual Traditions

Throughout history humans have made remarkably similar declarations.

The Upanishads declare:

• Aham Brahmasmi (I am Brahman)

• Tat Tvam Asi (Thou Art That)

• Shivoham (I am Shiva)

Many spiritual seekers eventually arrive at the realization that their essential nature is divine.

Likewise, the alien interview claims that IS-BEs are eternal spiritual beings possessing immense creative power.

Thus the alien statement and many spiritual traditions appear to converge at a similar point:

The soul is not merely a temporary biological organism but an eternal conscious being.

The First Fundamental Truth: The Soul Is Beginningless

The alien interview presents the first major truth:

IS-BEs Are Beginningless

The text explains:

The entire track of time behind an IS-BE is immeasurable and nearly infinite.

According to the alien explanation:

• Souls have no measurable beginning.

• Souls have no measurable end.

• Souls exist in an everlasting now.

The physical universe may experience cycles of creation and destruction, but the soul remains.

The text states:

There is no measurable beginning or end for an IS-BE.

Comparison with the Bhagavad Gita

This concept closely resembles one of the most famous verses of the Bhagavad Gita (2.20):

The soul is never born and never dies.

The Gita teaches:

• The soul is unborn.

• The soul is eternal.

• The soul is ancient.

• The soul survives the destruction of the body.

The alien interview uses the phrase:

Everlasting Now

The Gita uses:

Eternal, Permanent, Everlasting

Although different terminology is used, both describe the same fundamental concept:

The soul transcends physical time.

The Problem of Measuring Cosmic Time

The transcript points out an important limitation.

No one can truly measure:

• How many universes have come and gone.

• How many cosmic cycles have occurred.

• How many Brahmas have existed.

• How many Manvantaras have passed.

• How many Chaturyugas have unfolded.

Even if someone claims to know such numbers, who can verify them?

This difficulty applies not only to human knowledge but also to advanced civilizations attempting to understand the true age of existence.

For this reason many traditions simply describe the soul as:

Beginningless and endless.

The Second Fundamental Truth: Is Every Soul God?

The second major truth presented by the alien interview is even more controversial.

The text states:

The closest concept humans have to describe an IS-BE is God.

The alien description attributes the following qualities to the soul:

• Infinite

• All-knowing

• All-powerful

The interview then asks:

How does God stop being God?

The answer given is:

By pretending not to know.

In other words, the soul enters a state of forgetting.

Spiritual Interpretation of Forgetfulness

Many spiritual traditions teach a similar concept.

The soul does not cease being divine.

Instead, it forgets its true nature.

The Bhagavad Gita explains that Krishna remembers many births while Arjuna has forgotten them.

Similarly, many spiritual schools teach that:

• The soul is divine.

• The soul becomes identified with limitations.

• The soul forgets its original state.

• Spiritual awakening is the process of remembering.

Aham Brahmasmi and Tat Tvam Asi

The Upanishads contain profound declarations such as:

Aham Brahmasmi

"I am Brahman."

Tat Tvam Asi

"Thou Art That."

These statements suggest that the essence of the individual soul and the ultimate reality are fundamentally connected.

Bapuji's teachings similarly emphasize:

• You are Shiva.

• You are Maha Shiva.

• You are Param Maha Shiva.

• You are not separate from the Supreme Source.

From this perspective, the alien interview, Vedantic teachings, and Bapuji's teachings appear to be pointing toward the same realization:

The soul is far greater than it currently believes itself to be.

The Third Fundamental Truth: Creation as a Collective Game

The third major revelation presented in the alien interview is that creation is not the work of a single creator.

According to Airl:

The origin of universes began through the creation of individual illusionary domains by IS-BEs.

The text states that sometimes a universe is created collaboratively by two or more IS-BEs.

This means:

• Souls create realities.

• Souls create environments.

• Souls create universes.

• Some universes are individual creations.

• Some universes are cooperative creations.

According to this model, existence is a vast collaborative creative process rather than a single act performed by one external creator.

This concept becomes one of the deepest mysteries discussed in the Alien Interview material and forms the foundation for understanding how universes, civilizations, and cosmic structures may arise.

Who Created the Aliens? The Deepest Secret of the Universe (Part 2)

The Arrival of the Domain Forces in the Milky Way

According to the Alien Interview material discussed in this discourse, the Domain civilization has not been present in the Milky Way Galaxy forever.

The explanation presented states that the Domain forces arrived in this galaxy approximately 10,000 years ago. Furthermore, their presence on Earth is described as being approximately 8,200–8,600 years old according to the information referenced in the discussion.

The claim is that after arriving in this region of the galaxy, they established a base in the Himalayan region. However, approximately 3,000 Domain personnel allegedly became trapped within the cycle of physical existence.

According to the interpretation presented:

• They became human beings.

• They became entangled in attachment and illusion (Maya).

• They forgot their original state.

• They entered the cycle of earthly existence.

This topic was discussed extensively in previous episodes and forms an important foundation for understanding the larger narrative of the Alien Interview material.

The speaker encourages listeners to approach the material with an open mind and compare it with spiritual teachings rather than dismissing it immediately.

The Arcadia Regeneration Company and the Creation of Life Forms

One of the most fascinating revelations discussed in the Alien Interview material concerns the creation of biological life.

In Chapter 10, Airl allegedly describes her involvement in a vast biological organization:

Many billions of years ago I was a member of a very large biological laboratory in a galaxy far from this one.

According to the account:

The organization was known as:

Arcadia Regeneration Company

Its purpose was:

• To manufacture new life forms.

• To supply those life forms to uninhabited planets.

• To prepare biological species suitable for planetary habitation.

According to Airl's description, the process involved:

Stage 1: Designing Biological Prototypes

New life forms were first designed and developed as prototypes.

Stage 2: Artificial Environmental Testing

The prototypes were tested within controlled artificial environments.

Stage 3: Infusion of Life Force

After testing was complete, life force or spiritual energy was introduced into the biological forms.

Stage 4: Planetary Deployment

The completed life forms were then transported to actual planets for habitation.

According to this model, biological evolution is not merely a random process but involves intentional design and deployment.

The speaker compares this concept with modern human laboratories, where scientists create and modify biological organisms under controlled conditions.

Scriptural Parallels: The Purusha Sukta

The discussion then compares these ideas with the Purusha Sukta of the Rigveda.

The Purusha Sukta describes the Cosmic Being (Virat Purusha) as possessing:

• Thousands of heads.

• Thousands of eyes.

• Thousands of feet.

The hymn declares that even after encompassing the entire universe, the Cosmic Being transcends it.

The text further explains that from the cosmic sacrifice emerged:

• The Vedic hymns.

• The meters.

• The chants.

• The structures of creation.

The discourse interprets this as a symbolic description of the emergence of multiple species and forms of life through a cosmic creative process.

This interpretation is then compared with the Arcadia Regeneration Company concept, where advanced beings participate in the creation and distribution of life forms throughout the cosmos.

The Greatest Mystery: If Souls Create Universes, Who Created the First Soul?

This question naturally emerges:

If every soul creates universes, then who created the first soul?

The Alien Interview material gives a remarkable answer.

It states that every IS-BE entered the physical universe only after:

• Losing its original home universe.

• Joining with other IS-BEs.

• Participating in the creation or conquest of physical universes.

According to the text:

Each IS-BE entered the physical universe when they lost their own home universe.

This implies that souls originally existed within other realities before becoming involved in the present physical universe.

The Soul Has No Beginning

The discourse emphasizes the core claim:

The soul was never created.

The soul:

• Has no beginning.

• Has no end.

• Has always existed.

• Will always exist.

This concept mirrors many spiritual teachings that describe consciousness as eternal.

The Isha Upanishad and the Nature of the Soul

Reference is made to the Isha Upanishad, which describes the Self as:

• Faster than the mind.

• Beyond the reach of the senses.

• Existing prior to all gods.

The interpretation presented is that:

• The soul existed before the gods.

• The soul existed before advanced civilizations.

• The soul existed before alien civilizations.

• The soul continues beyond all of them.

Thus the soul becomes the primary reality behind all manifestations.

The Question of God

At this stage the discussion arrives at one of the most controversial questions:

Who Is God?

The Alien Interview material asks:

How else can you explain the source of spiritual animation that defines every living creature?

The answer given is radically different from many conventional religious explanations.

The text argues that the term "God" is often too broad and too limited simultaneously.

Instead, it proposes:

• Every soul possesses many identities.

• Every soul has appeared in many places and times.

• Every soul is fundamentally divine.

The text explicitly states:

Every IS-BE is a God.

Furthermore, when an IS-BE inhabits a physical form, it becomes the source of life within that form.

The Ultimate Conclusion of the Alien Interview

The conclusion reached by the alien perspective is:

• No single God created everything.

• Every soul is divine.

• Every soul is creative.

• Every soul contributes to creation.

• Every soul participates in sustaining reality.

According to this view, universes emerge through the combined creative activity of countless immortal spiritual beings.

Bapuji's Example of Generational Distance

The discourse compares cosmic creation to a large family lineage.

A grandfather creates a family.

His children have children.

Those children eventually have their own descendants.

As generations pass:

• The connection becomes more distant.

• The relationships become less direct.

• New branches develop their own identities.

The analogy is used to explain:

• Shiva

• Maha Shiva

• Param Maha Shiva

Each level manages its own domain of creation. Just as distant generations may have little direct interaction with one another, different levels of cosmic creators may operate independently within their respective spheres.

Why Higher Creators May Not Intervene

According to this interpretation: Shiva is occupied with Shiva's creation. Maha Shiva is occupied with Maha Shiva's creation. Param Maha Shiva is occupied with Param Maha Shiva's creation. Each level remains engaged within its own sphere of responsibility. This idea is used to explain why higher beings may not constantly interfere in the affairs of lower levels of creation.

Who Created the Domain?

The discourse then addresses another common question.

Who Created the Domain?

Answer:

The souls belonging to the Domain collectively created it.

Who Created the Old Empire?

Answer:

The souls belonging to the Old Empire collectively created it.

According to this perspective:

• Civilizations create civilizations.

• Collective consciousness creates collective realities.

• Souls organize themselves into vast cooperative structures.

What Then Is Paramatma?

A further question arises: If every soul is divine, what is Paramatma?

The answer offered is: Paramatma is the collective conscious reality of all souls.

The distinction between Atma and Paramatma becomes one of scale and realization rather than separation.

When a soul returns to its original state, it recognizes its deeper connection with the universal consciousness.

A Shocking Statement About Responsibility

One of the most important ideas in the Alien Interview material appears in Chapter 12.

The text argues that humanity has been conditioned to believe:

• God is responsible.

• Humans are not responsible.

People are taught that only God can create a universe. As a result, responsibility for existence is continually transferred to an external authority. The interview challenges this assumption. It states that every soul is individually and collectively responsible because every soul participates in creation. According to the text: The refusal to accept this responsibility is one of the primary causes of spiritual bondage.

Personal Responsibility and Spiritual Awakening

The discourse emphasizes that true spiritual awakening begins when individuals recognize:

• Their role in creation.

• Their responsibility for their actions.

• Their responsibility for their vibration.

• Their responsibility for transformation.

According to Bapuji's teachings:

When souls awaken to higher knowledge:

• They transform themselves.

• They transform society.

• They contribute to universal transformation.

The process begins with inner responsibility rather than external blame.

Comparing Different Philosophical Views

The discussion compares four perspectives.

Conventional Religious View

A single God created everything.

Dualistic Vedanta

God created souls.

Advaita Vedanta

There is no ultimate separation.

Every soul is Brahman.

Alien Interview Perspective

No creator exists apart from the eternal IS-BEs. Every IS-BE is itself divine. Although these systems use different language, the discussion argues that they converge toward similar conclusions concerning the divine nature of consciousness.

The Final Conclusion

The deepest conclusion presented in this discourse is: The aliens were not created. The Domain was not created by an external creator. The Old Empire was not created by an external creator.

Human beings were not created as separate entities from the divine.

Instead:

• Every soul is eternal.

• Every soul is beginningless.

• Every soul is divine.

• Every soul is a creator.

• Every soul has simply forgotten its true nature.

According to this interpretation:

Some souls are highly awakened:

• Domain Officers

• Devas

• Rishis

Some are partially awakened:

• Saints

• Seekers

• Ordinary spiritual practitioners

Some remain deeply asleep within material existence. Yet all possess the same essential nature.

The discourse identifies that nature as: Sat-Chit-Ananda (Existence, Consciousness, Bliss)

Language Changes, Truth Remains

The discourse concludes by comparing various expressions:

The scriptures say: "Aham Brahmasmi."

The Alien Interview says: "Every IS-BE is a God." The scriptures describe the soul as: "Unborn, Eternal, Everlasting." The Alien Interview describes it as: "Everlasting Now." The scriptures speak of self-existent reality. The Alien Interview speaks of self-created beings.

According to the speaker: The language changes. The terminology changes. The medium changes. But the underlying truth remains the same.

Final Reflection

The ultimate message presented is: No one told us who we truly are because we forgot.

The ancient sages declared:

Aham Brahmasmi — I Am Brahman.

The Alien Interview declares:

Every IS-BE Is God.

Bapuji's Behad Ka Gyan teaches:

You are not separate from the Supreme Reality.

You are eternal. You are consciousness. You are a creator. You have simply forgotten. The purpose of spiritual knowledge is remembrance. The purpose of remembrance is awakening. The purpose of awakening is liberation.